Ray McGovern on Petraeus, Cheney and Yoo

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Also, On AntiWar Radio: Charles Goyette talks with Ray McGovern about Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Alberto Gonzales, David Addington, Condoleezza Rice, George Tenet and much more.

mp3 here [58:23]

Yoo’s on First?
by Ray McGovern

Weren’t Yoo’s co-conspirators careful to keep their fingerprints off the more blatantly offensive memoranda? Sure they were.

But there was one problem. Then-Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and then-CIA Director George Tenet could not get their people to torture folks without written, signed authorization by the president.

And we have a copy of that authorization? Yes, it’s been available for years. You have to download it to believe it.

In his Feb. 7, 2002, memorandum, Bush wrote: “I determine that common Article 3 of Geneva does not apply to either al-Qaeda or Taliban detainees.” (Common Article 3 bans “torture [and] outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment.”)

Then, drawing on the lawyerly legerdemain, Bush did something really dumb. Using words drafted by Vice President Dick Cheney’s lawyer, David Addington, for a memo dated Jan. 25, 2002, signed by then-White House counsel Alberto Gonzales, the president ordered that detainees be treated, “humanely… to the extent appropriate and consistent with military necessity.”

Tacked onto the end of that sentence is a classic circumlocution: “in a manner consistent with the principles of Geneva.” But that is not what Geneva says, and there is no way to square that circle.

This is the giant loophole through which Rumsfeld and Tenet drove the Mack truck of torture … yes, signed by the president.
The rotten apples were – demonstrably – at the very top of the barrel.



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  1. Thanks for the video, Ray McGovern is great and always spot on. I had read somewhere that his health wasn’t too good and judging by this video i guess it’s true ? last time i saw him he had hair, i hope he over comes whatever it is, such a great bloke and much needed to help destroy the war parties lies.


    April 17, 2008 at 9:04 am

  2. that surprised me, also. hopefully Ray will be around for a good while longer.


    April 17, 2008 at 10:07 am

  3. I was watching that loose change film the other day, and was surprised to see Ray featured in it , i don;t pay to much attention to this 9/11 truth stuff but when someone like McGovern is raising doubts it makes you wonder, he was talking about he wouldn’t put it passed Cheney to have allowed the plane to hit the pentagon.

    here he is on c-span.


    April 17, 2008 at 10:54 am

  4. yep, when you look at all the parts that just don’t add up, like the changes between 01 and 01A, for example, there are certainly gaping holes in the ‘official’ fairy tale.


    April 17, 2008 at 12:08 pm

  5. hah, you think scott has been reading this ? he’s talking about 9/11 kooks lol πŸ™‚


    April 17, 2008 at 12:20 pm

  6. lmao! he has the distinct privilege of being completely surrounded by them by living in [the epicenter of 9/11 kookdom*], Austin, TX. I would venture to guess that he’s confronted by them in person on almost a daily, if not hourly, basis. he’s had all kinds of scrums with them on stress, too.

    [*] – (as Space Mountain is to Disneyland, AJ is to Austin)


    April 17, 2008 at 2:58 pm

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